Are there myths that feature such beings?

  • This is very borad. Would the Ages of Man fit the bill, perhaps? – Spencer Feb 7 '19 at 18:53
  • No, I ask for beings that came before mankind, not humans that came before other humans. – Dominic the inquisitive Feb 7 '19 at 20:11
  • Btw what do you exactly mean by "rational" beings? – Calaom Feb 8 '19 at 13:31
  • Beings with at least human-level intelligence that can reason. – Dominic the inquisitive Feb 8 '19 at 21:19
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    The shedim from jewish lore could be one. the shedim is the jewish counterpart of the jinn if im not mistaken. – Tom Feb 10 '19 at 23:03

Väinämöinen, in Finnish mythology, was the son of the Air Maiden, the creator goddess Ilmatar. Väinämöinen was born into a barren land where trees and plants had yet to grow, symbolizing the state of creation before the explosion of life (and the time after the glacial I’ve sheets receded in Northern Europe). He was a magical bard, not a god, but not entirely a man.

Also in Finnish mythology was a bird who laid her eggs on Ilmatar’s knee when the goddess was resting in the seas of chaos. The eggs heated and Ilmatar jerked her leg away. The yolk became the sun, and the whites became the moon and the stars. I can’t recall what the fragments became, but they may have become land. The bird has been depicted as a teal or an eagle, and has been depicted as a variety of species.

In Estonian mythology, there is an old creation myth of a bird laying three eggs that is closely related to the Finnish myth. One becomes the sun, one the moon, and one the earth.

In Norse Mythology, Audhumla was the primordial cow who suckled Ymir, the first giant who was born from the ice of Niflheim and the flames of Muspelheim. She licked away the ice of Niflheim to reveal the ancestor of the gods, Buri. It is unclear what happens to her after these events. However, this does occur before the earth is created.

In Greek mythology, there are the Cyclopes, Hecantocheries, and even the Titans who weren’t necessarily immaterial. These races were created before humans.

There are probably more examples, but these are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  • Finno-Ugric cultures (such as the Finns and Estonians) share a common theme across their creation myths, both involving a sentient bird (species varies) which wandered the vast amorphous chaos to begin the creation of the world. I suppose it can be argued either way if the birds were personified as rational (or wiser, or less rational) than humans, for so much of these tales have been unfortunately lost to time. It is up to your interpretation, as with many mythologies. – Koios Dec 27 '19 at 17:14
  • Additionally, giants were some of the most prevalent beings in mythology existing on earth before humans. Look into the Norse frost giants who warred with the gods before creation of the human world, the Bulgarian giants called ispolini, possibly the Nephilim (giants born from angels and women; they were destroyed along with humankind in the flood, not sure if that one qualified though), and even the dwarves of Norse myth. – Koios Dec 27 '19 at 17:20
  • Alright. Thank you for the information, your answer is good enough. If you want you can now delete your comments (I already deleted my comment) – Dominic the inquisitive Jan 26 at 12:37
  • What are you looking for specifically? If you have finer criteria (what you might use this information for, whether it be a fictional work, game, or personal knowledge) I might be able to help you more. – Koios Jan 27 at 13:10
  • Just myths that feature such beings. I was just curious if I'm not wrong. You can delete your comments if you'd like, the answer is ok even without the additional information of the comments. – Dominic the inquisitive Jan 28 at 15:41

I know one for certain, the pre-adamite jinn in Islamic mythology.

a Jinn is an invisible entity, created by God out of a "mixture of fire" or "smokeless fire", who roamed the earth before Adam.

The community of the Jinn race were like those of humans, but then corruption and injustice among them increased and all warnings sent by God were ignored. Consequently, God sent his angels to battle the infidel Jinn. Just a few survived, and were ousted to far islands or to the mountains. With the revelation of Islam, the Jinn were given a new chance to access salvation. But because of their prior creation, the jinn would attribute themselves to a superiority over humans and envy them for their place and rank on earth

source: The Qur'an and Its Biblical Subtext p.41

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    @Dominictheinquisitive Being hidden from the senses is not the same as being immaterial. something immaterial is not consisting of matter which the jinn are, there is a difference between the Pre-Adamite jinn-race, who share many characteristics with humans and the jinn that survived after the battle. – Tom Feb 17 '19 at 13:01
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    @Dominictheinquisitive I can't possible imagine mine and Koios' answer being of any use to conspiracy theorists. – Tom Dec 24 '19 at 17:58
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    Either delete the question or delete your account. I am not deleting my answer which I took my own free time to write. And making a comment on that conspiracy theorists will use this for the bad of mankind is beyond me. Thank you, goodnight, – Tom Dec 24 '19 at 17:59

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